Just read each party policy papers and make up your own mind. Ignore published opinions and analyses or you end up voting their way instead of your own.
Thanks for spreading the word John. TOP is simply an extreme Left party trying to appeal to the young and steal centre right votes. Happy for them to take votes from Labour and the Greens and even be in parliament. But they will never be part of a Coalition with ACT or NZF ( National are do woke I'm not sure Luxon would rule them out).
They oppose culturally divisive legislation but promote race based privilege. Amazing how a lefties mind works.
Nah, her teeth are less dramatic. But otherwise yeah, I see the likeness. As equally deluded and vacuous as the last pretty face. Nice write up John. Thanks.
Hmmm, more detail en route I assume as the various political types line up for our approval. For now I’m reminded of that ancient warning ‘Beware of Greeks bringing gifts’.
It’s remarkable to me how homogeneous NZ’s 4 Leftie parties are. The Maori Party is obviously riven by inter-tribal divisions but policy-wise they’re all basically the same. On the other hand, The Nats, NZ First & Act are all obviously distinct.
*If Opportunity gets into Government, then Māori Marxist Dystopia here we come.*
Yes.
One of the party members co-authored HePuaPua, someone smart reported.
To answer your "opportunity for what", can we rephrase that to opportunity for who ?
Answer - as you put it, for a left coalition verging on hard labour-led ethno-tribal-marxism. Where we let the wef-inspired slogan go full blown commie China - complete with open borders, surveillance-state, UBI, geofenced, carbon-zero, freedom-zero *utopia*. Sorry to project that vision and ruin your Saturday arvo, John and thank you. This needed to be said.
Agree totally John. We looked at her talking for about 2 minutes and concluded she is/was Jacinda MK11.....However NZ FIRST whilst doing ok in the polls needs to lift its game and clearly address the collapse of social contract and work towards returning our country to a state of Corporate Decency.
Mainfreight I gather does this admirably and there are probably others too. They might also think of stealing a policy or two back. The dreaded Greens policy of a 2.5% tax on assets seems a good idea to me. I watched that appalling Marama whatshername outlining those tax policies to William Terite this week and there was nothing he could pull her up on at all.
With regard to de-industrialising and all that other greeny clap trap, we only have to go back to the 1850's, to see how the great majority lived, the were very poor, living conditions were terrible, they worked their fingers to the bone, everything was heavy and difficult. Thank god for the industrial revolution, production went through the roof and our standard of living increased 100 fold. If you want to live like that, go for it, but don't drag everybody else with you.
And just while I'm having a rant get the corruption out of the non-western countries and maybe they'll have much better quality of life.
Opportunistic party might be a more apt name. Oppurtunism for a few in the inner circle to line their pockets for the small party machine, promising political change that will never come. Quilae Wong sounds like Jacinda Ardern with Chinese characteristics. With any luck they will be gone in the next electoral cycle. McGillicuddy Serious Party was a much more entertaining wasted vote, you could at least watch on and watch them dance in tartan while they literally pissed away all the electoral funding.
Ok you lost me when you said "independent Ani O'Brien "! She is not independent she is right wing Media. Woke? Woke and socialist are words used out of what they meant and context. Those are Trumpisms. Did you bothered to go use TOP calculators? Bet not. So what TOP go with Labour? And Greens who have until now the best tax policies this country ever had? Oh and again criticise dame Jacinda Ardern! Who put Aotearoa NZ on the map and saved 20000 lives or more, protected people against Long Covid, her government invested in economy , free apprenticeships and free first year student allowances so our brightest could get jobs in the country? 3.2% unemployment during her time. Invested un housing now stopped resulting in 350% homless numbers increase and 50000 children in poverty more than in 2023? And the ports&ferries saga which lost and still loosing 1 billion dollars and other projects stopped by National&Act&NZF loosing billion dollars in contracts for businesses: highest numbers if liquidations since 2014. Dame Ardern who signed 5 FTAs and 2 upgrades our farmers are benefiting now : 50 billion dollars in exports markets per year! Not an India deal forcing or encouraging businesses to invest in India destroying what's left of our manufacturing! Unbelievable to be so ideologically stunted! I am not by the way a voter for Labour or TOP: I vote for best policies : I voted National, NZF for many years. Not now : this National&Act&NZF coalition have destroyed our country with their Atlas Network, Taxpayers Union, Hobson pledge( millionaires and billionaires donnors) libertarian policies of tax cuts( Trussonemics), austerity. Created division following and kowtowing towing to Trump.
Thanks for wading in Michaela. “Independent” isn’t quite the right word. I do acknowledge Ani O’Brien is at least conservative. I guess “non-mainstream” is a better descriptor. Jacinda Ardern’s terms of government produced very little State housing and saddled New Zealanders with $90 billion of debt that’s costing $10b to service annually. At least $30b no-one can tell what it was even. spent on. Ardern’s administrations did more to stuff the welfare and prospects of NZ’s young people than any other government in living memory. “Woke” is an apt descriptor of post- modernist Identitarianism. I’m no Trumper, BTW. People who rail against the term “Woke” are usually defensive Wokesters themselves.
Your info is wrong. 54.87 billions inherited from Key&Seymour& English. 60 billions borrowed for Covid, Cyclone, floods. Oil prices hike due to war in Ukraine and Russia sanctions. Moody's tripple A ratings and S&P AA plus ratings for our economy during Labour times a proof of the country good economy. Investing in 15000 houses,3500 built after 2024. 5000 bought. Now? 43. Kainga Ora had 49 billions in housing stock . Now? Selling it to developers mates. 30 billion dollars if you bothered to check Treasury reports you will see where thec30 billions went. Go. Check reports . Treasury, PREFU, OECD. You are very disinformed. I am happy to be called a woke person! And a socialist! As I admire Scandinavian countries who adopted the best socialist policies. Not yours Atlas Network Libertarian ones proven a failure. Do you support selling our assets to foreigners? Giving away our minerals? Do you like the 6.6% unemployment? 14.4% youth unemployment this coalition caused by its policies? Giving tax cuts to landlords ( themselves), tobacco companies ( vaoes cancer causing)and giving $250 a forthcoming tax cut to you( yeah Luxon promised it to each kiwi, 3000 got it rest $24 -5 ) to the place of continuing with infrastructure, housing, hospitals, schools upgrades and built, ports&ferries, tunnel&light rail in Auckland at bidding stage, electricity providers upgrades and expansion? Cutting billions in contracts resulting in highest number of businesses in liquidation since 2014! 250000 kiwis leaving the country! Who is not working is costing money as they don't pay taxes but get welfare ! Willis borrowed more in 2 years than Labour in 6 without a pandemic, global crises caused by pandemic, cyclone, floods, war resulting in oil prices hike and rest.
Mihaela, do you do this for a living or just pulled the short straw today in Opps-Media party shills? Sorry but the old trope "I voted for National and NZFirst once" doesn't cut it if you are a fan of Jackboot Jacinda. And the "farmers are benefitting" shows that you are pro-net Zero, which slaughters the agricultural sector with costs and controls. Yes, we know that narrative too. If this is your best attempt then leave it there for now, you've done your little bit. Oh, and suggest you read a bit more widely from Substack you now call home, and use the spell check that is available in here for some credibility. It's not like Tiktok/insta/Bluesky: you can't just swing in with rampant assumptions and expect not to be called out. BTW the call sign giveaway to your far-left bent was the "atlas network". We debunked that one years ago.
1 billion dollars from our tax money went to farmers : MBovis. Shame on you to forget it. Oh yeah you had to stop polluting ! Bad idea! Let's see if our green clean image dissipates who would buy your produce.
LUXON needs to categorically rule out TOP so the gullible woke inner city National supporters won’t vote for them
Let them steal the Greens lunch
Communism with a pretty face .
Your bar for 'pretty' is fucking low, bro!
A morally bereft wankstain on NZ's undies is what she is. Traitor to women, ball palming trannys and an economic vandal.
Pattern recognition from 2017.
Do you even know what communism us? Lol !
Just read each party policy papers and make up your own mind. Ignore published opinions and analyses or you end up voting their way instead of your own.
Thanks for spreading the word John. TOP is simply an extreme Left party trying to appeal to the young and steal centre right votes. Happy for them to take votes from Labour and the Greens and even be in parliament. But they will never be part of a Coalition with ACT or NZF ( National are do woke I'm not sure Luxon would rule them out).
They oppose culturally divisive legislation but promote race based privilege. Amazing how a lefties mind works.
Nah, her teeth are less dramatic. But otherwise yeah, I see the likeness. As equally deluded and vacuous as the last pretty face. Nice write up John. Thanks.
Indomitable self-belief, all the while claiming disingenuously to have “imposter syndrome”.
Hmmm, more detail en route I assume as the various political types line up for our approval. For now I’m reminded of that ancient warning ‘Beware of Greeks bringing gifts’.
Thanks John.
It’s remarkable to me how homogeneous NZ’s 4 Leftie parties are. The Maori Party is obviously riven by inter-tribal divisions but policy-wise they’re all basically the same. On the other hand, The Nats, NZ First & Act are all obviously distinct.
Yes as Trumpists
The Nats are Trumpers?! Pull the other one Michaela
????
Is she a NZ Citizen ?. If so where did she come from. Just another wannabe MP. to suck from the public purse ?.
*If Opportunity gets into Government, then Māori Marxist Dystopia here we come.*
Yes.
One of the party members co-authored HePuaPua, someone smart reported.
To answer your "opportunity for what", can we rephrase that to opportunity for who ?
Answer - as you put it, for a left coalition verging on hard labour-led ethno-tribal-marxism. Where we let the wef-inspired slogan go full blown commie China - complete with open borders, surveillance-state, UBI, geofenced, carbon-zero, freedom-zero *utopia*. Sorry to project that vision and ruin your Saturday arvo, John and thank you. This needed to be said.
Opportunists Party.
Just another commie scumcunt.
What's Marxist utopia ? I really want to know
You really are stupid aren't you. Are your short cretinous witterings on this thread symptomatic of the mental diarrhea you appear to afflicted with.
Sums it up. Looks like a Marxist Utopian wannabe landed on John's page.
Nice serve.
We’re a broad church Foxglove!
Accurate. Youve tolerated your followers' rants through the ages. Mine included. Long may that live.
Agree totally John. We looked at her talking for about 2 minutes and concluded she is/was Jacinda MK11.....However NZ FIRST whilst doing ok in the polls needs to lift its game and clearly address the collapse of social contract and work towards returning our country to a state of Corporate Decency.
Mainfreight I gather does this admirably and there are probably others too. They might also think of stealing a policy or two back. The dreaded Greens policy of a 2.5% tax on assets seems a good idea to me. I watched that appalling Marama whatshername outlining those tax policies to William Terite this week and there was nothing he could pull her up on at all.
Good. If she is like Dame Jacinda Ardern!
With regard to de-industrialising and all that other greeny clap trap, we only have to go back to the 1850's, to see how the great majority lived, the were very poor, living conditions were terrible, they worked their fingers to the bone, everything was heavy and difficult. Thank god for the industrial revolution, production went through the roof and our standard of living increased 100 fold. If you want to live like that, go for it, but don't drag everybody else with you.
And just while I'm having a rant get the corruption out of the non-western countries and maybe they'll have much better quality of life.
Opportunistic party might be a more apt name. Oppurtunism for a few in the inner circle to line their pockets for the small party machine, promising political change that will never come. Quilae Wong sounds like Jacinda Ardern with Chinese characteristics. With any luck they will be gone in the next electoral cycle. McGillicuddy Serious Party was a much more entertaining wasted vote, you could at least watch on and watch them dance in tartan while they literally pissed away all the electoral funding.
Ok you lost me when you said "independent Ani O'Brien "! She is not independent she is right wing Media. Woke? Woke and socialist are words used out of what they meant and context. Those are Trumpisms. Did you bothered to go use TOP calculators? Bet not. So what TOP go with Labour? And Greens who have until now the best tax policies this country ever had? Oh and again criticise dame Jacinda Ardern! Who put Aotearoa NZ on the map and saved 20000 lives or more, protected people against Long Covid, her government invested in economy , free apprenticeships and free first year student allowances so our brightest could get jobs in the country? 3.2% unemployment during her time. Invested un housing now stopped resulting in 350% homless numbers increase and 50000 children in poverty more than in 2023? And the ports&ferries saga which lost and still loosing 1 billion dollars and other projects stopped by National&Act&NZF loosing billion dollars in contracts for businesses: highest numbers if liquidations since 2014. Dame Ardern who signed 5 FTAs and 2 upgrades our farmers are benefiting now : 50 billion dollars in exports markets per year! Not an India deal forcing or encouraging businesses to invest in India destroying what's left of our manufacturing! Unbelievable to be so ideologically stunted! I am not by the way a voter for Labour or TOP: I vote for best policies : I voted National, NZF for many years. Not now : this National&Act&NZF coalition have destroyed our country with their Atlas Network, Taxpayers Union, Hobson pledge( millionaires and billionaires donnors) libertarian policies of tax cuts( Trussonemics), austerity. Created division following and kowtowing towing to Trump.
Thanks for wading in Michaela. “Independent” isn’t quite the right word. I do acknowledge Ani O’Brien is at least conservative. I guess “non-mainstream” is a better descriptor. Jacinda Ardern’s terms of government produced very little State housing and saddled New Zealanders with $90 billion of debt that’s costing $10b to service annually. At least $30b no-one can tell what it was even. spent on. Ardern’s administrations did more to stuff the welfare and prospects of NZ’s young people than any other government in living memory. “Woke” is an apt descriptor of post- modernist Identitarianism. I’m no Trumper, BTW. People who rail against the term “Woke” are usually defensive Wokesters themselves.
Your info is wrong. 54.87 billions inherited from Key&Seymour& English. 60 billions borrowed for Covid, Cyclone, floods. Oil prices hike due to war in Ukraine and Russia sanctions. Moody's tripple A ratings and S&P AA plus ratings for our economy during Labour times a proof of the country good economy. Investing in 15000 houses,3500 built after 2024. 5000 bought. Now? 43. Kainga Ora had 49 billions in housing stock . Now? Selling it to developers mates. 30 billion dollars if you bothered to check Treasury reports you will see where thec30 billions went. Go. Check reports . Treasury, PREFU, OECD. You are very disinformed. I am happy to be called a woke person! And a socialist! As I admire Scandinavian countries who adopted the best socialist policies. Not yours Atlas Network Libertarian ones proven a failure. Do you support selling our assets to foreigners? Giving away our minerals? Do you like the 6.6% unemployment? 14.4% youth unemployment this coalition caused by its policies? Giving tax cuts to landlords ( themselves), tobacco companies ( vaoes cancer causing)and giving $250 a forthcoming tax cut to you( yeah Luxon promised it to each kiwi, 3000 got it rest $24 -5 ) to the place of continuing with infrastructure, housing, hospitals, schools upgrades and built, ports&ferries, tunnel&light rail in Auckland at bidding stage, electricity providers upgrades and expansion? Cutting billions in contracts resulting in highest number of businesses in liquidation since 2014! 250000 kiwis leaving the country! Who is not working is costing money as they don't pay taxes but get welfare ! Willis borrowed more in 2 years than Labour in 6 without a pandemic, global crises caused by pandemic, cyclone, floods, war resulting in oil prices hike and rest.
Mihaela, do you do this for a living or just pulled the short straw today in Opps-Media party shills? Sorry but the old trope "I voted for National and NZFirst once" doesn't cut it if you are a fan of Jackboot Jacinda. And the "farmers are benefitting" shows that you are pro-net Zero, which slaughters the agricultural sector with costs and controls. Yes, we know that narrative too. If this is your best attempt then leave it there for now, you've done your little bit. Oh, and suggest you read a bit more widely from Substack you now call home, and use the spell check that is available in here for some credibility. It's not like Tiktok/insta/Bluesky: you can't just swing in with rampant assumptions and expect not to be called out. BTW the call sign giveaway to your far-left bent was the "atlas network". We debunked that one years ago.
1 billion dollars from our tax money went to farmers : MBovis. Shame on you to forget it. Oh yeah you had to stop polluting ! Bad idea! Let's see if our green clean image dissipates who would buy your produce.
Political naîvité to believe in voting …
PJ O’Rourke’s book…”DON’T VOTE. It just encourages the bastards” 😉